Consanguinity
Just had a long discussion with a friend on Consanguinous marriages, i.e. marriages between relatives. I've always known thats dangerous and stupid but I never really bothered to find out much about it. But talking to my friend I found that someone she knows pretty well, a young 'smart' girl of our age agreed to marry a relative. Why? I have no idea. Did she know it's a problem when it comes to having kinds? Yes, I think so. If she managed to not know about the dangers she probably deserves the problems she'll face.
Ok, so maybe thats mean but it's so exasperating. It's like people smoking. There is absolutely nothing good about smoking. It's addictive, dangerous n very disgusting. N yet the tribe of smokers increases. Yuck!
But to get back to consaguinity. The dangers increase the closer the relationship is. I found it a bit hard to calculate exactly who is related to whom and I found the following article very helpful.
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A CHART OF CONSANGUINITY "Kinship Chart"
Helps to identify the relationship of those sharing common ancestors.
O ------ P ---- GP -- GGP - 3GP --- 4GP --- 5GP
P ------ S ----- N --- GN -- 2GN --- 3GN -- 4GN
GP ---- N ---- 1C -- 1C1R - 1C2R -- 1C3R -- 1C4R
GGP - GN -- 1C1R - 2C ---- 2C1R - 2C2R -- 2C3R
3GP - 2GN - 1C2R - 2C1R - 3C ---- 3C1R -- 3C2R
4GP - 3GN - 1C3R - 2C2R - 3C1R -- 4C ---- 4C1R
5GP - 4GN - 1C4R - 2C3R - 3C2R - 4C1R -- 5C
C = Cousin
P = Parents
G = Great/Grand
N = Nephew/Niece
O = Original Ancestors
R = Removed
S = Sibling (brother or sister)
Examples:1C = First Cousin
GGP = Great Grand Parents
2C1R = Second Cousin, Once Removed
GN = Grand Nephew/Niece
3GP = Great Great Grand Parents
5GP = Great Great Great Great Grand Parents
Locate one person along the top row, according to his relationship to the Original Ancestors (O). Locate the other person along the left hand column, according to his relationship to the same Original Ancestors and where the two lines cross indicates the relationship of the two people to each other. If needed, the pattern can easily be extended.
If you and I have the same Parents (P), then we are Siblings (S).
If my Grandparents (GP) are also your Grandparents (GP), then you and I are first cousins (1C).
My Great Grand Mother's brother is my Great Grand Uncle, so I'm his GGN, because our Original Ancestors are their Parents (P), and are also my Great Great Grand Parents (GGGP).
In reverse, if someone is your third cousin (3C), it means that you both share the same great-great-grandparents (3GP).
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Be sure to use the nearest Original Ancestors that you share or you can come up with such ridiculous things as:Since my Grandparents are my son's Great-Grandparents, therefore my Son is my first cousin, once removed (1C1R). Whoa...!
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Kith and Kin -
HALF -"Half" means you share only one parent. Example: half-brothers may have the same father but different mothers, etc.
STEP - Not blood kin, but a close legal relationship due to re-marriage of a parent, such as step-mother, step-brother, step-son, etc.
DOUBLE FIRST COUSINS - Are first cousins twice, once on their Father's side and once on their Mother's side, since their Father's sibling married their Mother's sibling.
IN-LAW - They are not really blood kin but are treated as such because they married blood kin. Example: Your Mother-in-law is not really your Mother but is treated as such because you married her daughter/son. Also your brother-in-law is your brother because your parents are also his parents "in-law" (Mother-in-law, Father-in-law).
KITH and KIN - "Kith" are friends and acquaintances whereas "Kin" are blood relatives or someone treated as such in-law.
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ANOTHER METHOD - The number of "G"s you share is the number of cousins you are. The difference in "G"s is the number "Removed". Example: Two people who have the same great-grand-parents (2G) are second cousins (2C). If the great-grand-parents (2G) of one person are the great-great-grand-parents (3G) of the other person, then those two people are second cousins, once removed (2C1R). They share 2G with a difference of 1G (3-2=1). Compare the chart.
Ok, so maybe thats mean but it's so exasperating. It's like people smoking. There is absolutely nothing good about smoking. It's addictive, dangerous n very disgusting. N yet the tribe of smokers increases. Yuck!
But to get back to consaguinity. The dangers increase the closer the relationship is. I found it a bit hard to calculate exactly who is related to whom and I found the following article very helpful.
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A CHART OF CONSANGUINITY "Kinship Chart"
Helps to identify the relationship of those sharing common ancestors.
O ------ P ---- GP -- GGP - 3GP --- 4GP --- 5GP
P ------ S ----- N --- GN -- 2GN --- 3GN -- 4GN
GP ---- N ---- 1C -- 1C1R - 1C2R -- 1C3R -- 1C4R
GGP - GN -- 1C1R - 2C ---- 2C1R - 2C2R -- 2C3R
3GP - 2GN - 1C2R - 2C1R - 3C ---- 3C1R -- 3C2R
4GP - 3GN - 1C3R - 2C2R - 3C1R -- 4C ---- 4C1R
5GP - 4GN - 1C4R - 2C3R - 3C2R - 4C1R -- 5C
C = Cousin
P = Parents
G = Great/Grand
N = Nephew/Niece
O = Original Ancestors
R = Removed
S = Sibling (brother or sister)
Examples:1C = First Cousin
GGP = Great Grand Parents
2C1R = Second Cousin, Once Removed
GN = Grand Nephew/Niece
3GP = Great Great Grand Parents
5GP = Great Great Great Great Grand Parents
Locate one person along the top row, according to his relationship to the Original Ancestors (O). Locate the other person along the left hand column, according to his relationship to the same Original Ancestors and where the two lines cross indicates the relationship of the two people to each other. If needed, the pattern can easily be extended.
If you and I have the same Parents (P), then we are Siblings (S).
If my Grandparents (GP) are also your Grandparents (GP), then you and I are first cousins (1C).
My Great Grand Mother's brother is my Great Grand Uncle, so I'm his GGN, because our Original Ancestors are their Parents (P), and are also my Great Great Grand Parents (GGGP).
In reverse, if someone is your third cousin (3C), it means that you both share the same great-great-grandparents (3GP).
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Be sure to use the nearest Original Ancestors that you share or you can come up with such ridiculous things as:Since my Grandparents are my son's Great-Grandparents, therefore my Son is my first cousin, once removed (1C1R). Whoa...!
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Kith and Kin -
HALF -"Half" means you share only one parent. Example: half-brothers may have the same father but different mothers, etc.
STEP - Not blood kin, but a close legal relationship due to re-marriage of a parent, such as step-mother, step-brother, step-son, etc.
DOUBLE FIRST COUSINS - Are first cousins twice, once on their Father's side and once on their Mother's side, since their Father's sibling married their Mother's sibling.
IN-LAW - They are not really blood kin but are treated as such because they married blood kin. Example: Your Mother-in-law is not really your Mother but is treated as such because you married her daughter/son. Also your brother-in-law is your brother because your parents are also his parents "in-law" (Mother-in-law, Father-in-law).
KITH and KIN - "Kith" are friends and acquaintances whereas "Kin" are blood relatives or someone treated as such in-law.
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ANOTHER METHOD - The number of "G"s you share is the number of cousins you are. The difference in "G"s is the number "Removed". Example: Two people who have the same great-grand-parents (2G) are second cousins (2C). If the great-grand-parents (2G) of one person are the great-great-grand-parents (3G) of the other person, then those two people are second cousins, once removed (2C1R). They share 2G with a difference of 1G (3-2=1). Compare the chart.
posted by sudden_sue at 5:05 AM
4 Comments:
Finally you've posted something. I've been coming along everyday!!
Thats some real useful info for people who need it. but the thought of having a relationship with a relative is creepy. Its amusing people sat and made a chart on that. LOL.
In many parts of the world people marry within the family so that the bloodline remains pure! Is that wierd or what?
Wish more people would find ut about this stuff. Thankfully the process seems to be slowly becoming more unacceptable than before.
It's crap. There are so many young asians abroad who think they're coming back to India/Pakistan to 'find their roots' n then end up forced to marry relatives. Recently there was a young pakistani girl who was rescued when her folks flew her down from London n then told her she had to marry her cousin.
Suddenly susan? Could you have thought up something more personal? You know, like sadistic susan or smart susan or spiritual susan even. just a thought.
But I do agree with your post n both comments on it. Consanguinity is bad & people should know it.
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